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Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:58 pm
by m94x
This one just sold on Ebay and the sellor identified it as coming from the estate of an ex Grumman exec and admittedly it looks like a Grumman design but I can't positively identify it-I'd really like to know what it is.. It has SM10X on the side of it.

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:55 am
by dasimperator
Link to auction? Can't tell much from a postage stamp.

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:09 pm
by m94x
how's this?

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:36 pm
by grwebster
I see simiularites with the Banshee F2H aft of the wing, but Grumman was not into a swept wing designs at that point and had moved to full 'bubble' canopy glazing. The final version known as the Cougar was quite different.

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:14 pm
by CAIR67
The stand looks very similar to other Grumman model shop stands I have seen. Also the project number on the side and shading of the windows help its identity of a factory model.

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:39 am
by Aeronaut
The flag on the vertical tailplane has the Italian colors, and SM10X might be a never built concept from Savoia-Marchetti, just my WAG! :lol:

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:48 am
by grwebster
Cristian, I thought the same thing but SM didn't survive the war as an aircraft builder, they mainly went into trucks. They did make a piston trainer but no jets.
BTW I never saw a flag on the model.

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:50 am
by Aeronaut
grwebster wrote:Cristian, I thought the same thing but SM didn't survive the war as an aircraft builder, they mainly went into trucks. They did make a piston trainer but no jets.
BTW I never saw a flag on the model.

Well... heeere it isss!!!

http://translate.google.com/translate?t ... aktivnye-0

If you click on "The project jet fighter SIAI-Marchetti SM-10X" it will show the whole story.

BTW There is a very thin horizontal flag that spans the whole vertical tailplane cord. Your old eyes are getting tired :lol:

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:57 am
by grwebster
right you are - I found a photo of the model, too.
http://www.google.fr/imgres?q=SIAI-Marc ... 9,r:23,s:0

Re: Unknown Grumman

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:04 am
by m94x
Thanks guys! I knew you'd be able to satisfy my curiosity! I wish I'd bid more on it now. Now if I can only get that chronology of Pastushin models.....:)